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Inclarity on the concept - Habemus plus vis computatoris quam Deus
Ramblings of a Unix ronin
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Inclarity on the concept
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unixronin From: unixronin Date: December 27th, 2011 05:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I actually found Wacht am Rhein not bad at all. I particularly noticed that there was basically only one actual fervent Nazi in the entire corps, and pretty much the entire rest of the corps who knew it considered him the scum of the Earth.
jordan179 From: jordan179 Date: December 27th, 2011 07:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
This is not implausible: the outcome of World War II coupled with the post-1945 history of the Earth deeply disillusioned even surviving Waffen-SS veterans with the brilliance and integrity of their Nazi political leadership!
Tom Kratman From: Tom Kratman Date: December 28th, 2011 02:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Consider the possibility, painful though it may be, that you missed the point. I've certainly considered the likelihood that I didn't make it in a way suitable to all readers.

Much more than 90%.

I highly encourage you not to read my books. I am certain they will cntinue to offend you. Just out of curiosity, though, did you find the very graphic portrayals of SS crimes - Babi Yar, Auschwitz - equally offensive.
dakiwiboid From: dakiwiboid Date: December 28th, 2011 03:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Before I found this comment, I was considering reading this book to decide for myself whether I liked it.

I won't be doing that now. Inviting the reading public NOT to read your books is not a wise move for a writer.
Tom Kratman From: Tom Kratman Date: December 28th, 2011 03:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, puhleeze. Do you really think the 60 odd cents I get from a paperback matters? Or even two increments of them, including yours?

It really doesn't. And telling some particular person, "Hey, I'm not the writer for you," in advance, is only about 60 cents difference from him, or her, finding it out for themselves.

dakiwiboid From: dakiwiboid Date: December 28th, 2011 04:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

I know a number of novelists

and they've told me they need every reader they can get. If you keep treating your readers and potential readers this way, those 60 cent sales may well start declining. It starts with one reader talking to another reader, and soon the balance sheet looks a bit thinner. It's happened to other writers, and it might happen to you.
Tom Kratman From: Tom Kratman Date: December 28th, 2011 05:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: I know a number of novelists

I wonder if you're not trying to find offense where none is offered. That's pretty common is this decadent age.

Hmmm...let's try this: One might say, "Why you snivelling excuse for an illiterate "reader"! *&^%*(*^$#^!!! I expressly forbid you from reading my books. You're just too stupid." Now _that's_ offensive, as compared to: "I highly encourage you not to read my books. I am certain they will cntinue to offend you."

See the difference?
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Tom Kratman From: Tom Kratman Date: December 28th, 2011 03:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thank you for your response - it was quite unexpected

Sure, and I don't have a problem with that.

I actually did a partial migration, into straight military fiction, with the COUNTDOWN series. Sadly, Barnes and Noble doesn't know quite how to shelve it. It's been found in sci fi, in fiction, in politics, and God knows where else. They're not super political but they're damned harsh, occasionally mitigated by quite funny (at least, if you like Monty Python).

But, fair warning, _all_ my books are harsh to the point of brutal. They're just not for everybody.
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Tom Kratman From: Tom Kratman Date: December 28th, 2011 04:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Ah..interesting.

Let me give you a truth in advertising fair warning. In the beginning of the first book, the main character, a colonel, walks down a line of Afghan villagers and blows their brains out, one by one, until one of the villagers divulges where certain Navy SEALs (he's Army SF) are being held. Then, since the SEALs are dead before recovered (burned alive, actually), and as he promised if they were not recovered timely, he has the men executed and turns their women and children over to some Afghans working for him, in effect as slaves, approximately the normal status of women there, anyway. And he doesn't face justice for it, since the Army is a lot more concerned with appearances and PR than it is with justice. If you can read that then you can read the rest. Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend it.
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unixronin From: unixronin Date: December 28th, 2011 05:15 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thank you for your response - it was quite unexpected

OK, you had me at "Monty Python". :)

There is a place for harshness. I think we as a culture don't visit that place enough, because too many of us are too fond of pretending to ourselves that it is NOT a harsh and unforgiving world (and universe) "out there". There is a strong societal tendency to pretend that everything is, or can be, or at the very least should be, perfectly safe and devoid of danger or personal responsibility. And it just ain't so.
Tom Kratman From: Tom Kratman Date: December 28th, 2011 05:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thank you for your response - it was quite unexpected

More fair warning: I've long since become sick to death of armies created with an authorial stamp of the foot. The COUNTDOWN series is heavily - surely some would say, "tediously" - detailed. Maybe not as much as the ADCP-verse, but still pretty detailed. A lot of people do not like that. You may not, either.
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