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Usual suspects

Oh look, here's Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY who got into office largely by pretending to be a "Blue Dog"¹) totally not using Tucson as an excuse for more gun control laws.  After all, it didn't work in California, it didn't work in Massachusetts, it didn't work under the Clintons, why not try it again?  Astronomers just corrected all the astrological signs for the precession of the Earth's axis since astrology was invented in Babylonian times; maybe the bill will "work" now.

...Oh come on, it's as reasonable as any other rationale.

[1]  Uh, never mind the false-colors part, I somehow managed to confuse her with Kirstin Gillibrand.  ...No, I can't begin to guess how I conflated two such dissimilar names.

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mr_spock From: mr_spock Date: January 20th, 2011 02:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Someone should tell her that Astrology doesn't pay any attention to what Astronomy has to say about the solar system, galaxy, and universe.
unixronin From: unixronin Date: January 20th, 2011 03:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think she's suggesting anything to do with astrology. I was just suggesting that "astrological signs updated" makes about as much sense as any other rationale for why such a bill, which has repeatedly failed to reduce crime in the past, would do so now. High-capacity magazine bans appear to be based on the brainstampingly idiotic theory that someone who has the wherewithal to go buy a gun and locate the correct matching aftermarket 30-round magazine for it, and knows how to load said 30-round magazine and insert it into the gun, is incapable of purchasing two off-the-shelf 10-round magazines with the gun when he buys it or of figuring out how to load those and insert them into the gun. Or perhaps it's that 30 rounds of ammunition are somehow more lethal when loaded into a single 30-round magazine than when loaded into three 10-round or two 15-round magazines.

In a rational world, Virginia Tech should have been the death-knell of high-capacity-magazine bans, as it quite clearly showed that deranged mass murderers are, completely to the contrary of the apparent suppositions of the anti-gunners, actually quite capable of reloading during a shooting spree. In fact, Cho accomplished this arcane and mysterious feat several times.
mr_spock From: mr_spock Date: January 20th, 2011 04:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know. I was trying to add another layer to your sarcasm about why she might consider it worth trying.
beckyzoole From: beckyzoole Date: January 20th, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Carolyn McCarthy has spent nearly 15 years in Congress trying hard to get gun control legislation passed. The only reason why she's even IN politics is to try to get gun control legislation passed.

McCarthy is a conservative, Republican nurse whose husband was killed in 1993 when that crazy guy shot up the Long Island Rail Road. Her son, who was riding with his father, was severely injured and still needs full-time care. There's no "pretending" to be Blue Dog about her in this matter, no matter how moderate she may be on all other topics. She was a registered Republican when she first tried to run for office, but she couldn't get on the Republican ticket because she is so very strongly pro-gun-control. As a nurse, she strongly supports abortion rights and healthcare reform. Economically, though, she pretty consistently swings Republican.

(Edited to add: I just looked up her bio on-line, and found out that she served her first 7 years as a Democratic member of Congress while still being a registered Republican. She is now a registered Independent.)

Edited at 2011-01-20 05:02 pm (UTC)
montieth From: montieth Date: January 20th, 2011 07:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
New England Republicans are democrats in the rest of the country.
unixronin From: unixronin Date: January 20th, 2011 08:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sorry, I may be confusing her with the other Carolyn-something D-NY who took over a vacated seat recently, who acted Blue Dog until after the election and then immediately turned over.

Or I may be confusing the other one's name ....
From: freetrav Date: January 20th, 2011 08:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
The appointment to a vacated seat was KIRSTIN Gillibrand, appointed to the United States Senate to complete the term of Senator Hillary Clinton, D-NY, who accepted an appointment from President Barak Obama to the position of Secretary of State. Senator Gillibrand was re-elected in a special election in 2010, and will serve until the next Senate is seated in January 2013. It should be noted that when Senator Clinton bid for the job of junior Senator from New York, she indicated that she would serve her full term and had no ambitions at that time for higher office.

The senior Senator from New York, Charles Schumer, was re-elected in a normal bid and will serve until the inauguration of the Senate in January 2017.
unixronin From: unixronin Date: January 20th, 2011 08:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
DOH! I was COMPLETELY off in left field on the name. Mea culpa.
fruitylips From: fruitylips Date: January 23rd, 2011 07:29 am (UTC) (Link)
She's supports gun control, abortion, health care reform and opposes the death penalty...

This makes her more of a Democrat than many lifelong Democrats.
beckyzoole From: beckyzoole Date: January 23rd, 2011 04:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, she's an old-fashioned Republican, of the kind that today would be called fiscally conservative but socially liberal.
fruitylips From: fruitylips Date: January 23rd, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
As a nearly lifelong Libertarian, the idea that you think Republicans were every 'fiscally conservative and socially liberal' is pretty laughable.
fruitylips From: fruitylips Date: January 23rd, 2011 07:36 am (UTC) (Link)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-baum/after-tucson-stricter-gun_b_811696.html

Now if the Republicans could figure out the same thing wrt abortion. At least they're arguing a moral position, rather than a repeatedly failed practical one.
unixronin From: unixronin Date: January 23rd, 2011 06:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
He makes a lot of sense. Now if only more people on the Democrat side would listen to him...
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